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firebirddrifter 10-14-2007 02:43 PM

can it be done? help me!
 
i dont know if the drifting susspension and other necessary equipment will fit and work on my 1980 firebird please help me!

Udrivecrap 10-14-2007 02:52 PM

that's a 2nd gen... i used to have a 81 bird and a 78 camaro. what kind of suspension stuff are you getting? i'm still learning about drifting, there's alot in here that know but i hardly see cars like this. i do know there is an el camino that drifts but from what one of the oliberos bros told me they have a hard time getting the suspension right.

ArchangelX 10-14-2007 08:31 PM

Ahhh...a domestic! I think your best bet is the www.driftingforums.com They have a special domestic drifting club! Check it out!

Outsider 10-14-2007 11:53 PM

just sample what you got and go from there.
it might work fine as it is...
up to a certain point, then you'll have to start modifying.

Udrivecrap 10-15-2007 12:06 AM

the car is heavy... we owned the 81 since new and i've spun around many times with the stock suspension (when it was about 4 years old)...

i'm no professional, but i could slide in the stock 74 celica with wide tires much better.

spider_monkey52 10-15-2007 09:17 AM

theres a honda element out there drifting right now on the proffessional curcuit, so if they can do that you can drift your car fine. it's just a matter of money and effort

firebirddrifter 10-15-2007 01:45 PM

i havent bought any suspension yet cuz i dont know if it would work

Outsider 10-15-2007 09:51 PM

You might have to get your front wheels to turn farther than normal.
I'm not sure if a stock steering box will let you do that.
Maybe switching over to rack-and-pinion would do it, but....
Just sample what you got, and figure it out from there.

firebirddrifter 10-16-2007 02:52 PM

im working on getting a conversion kit to make it manuel and overall make it driveable

eight2178 10-17-2007 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spider_monkey52
theres a honda element out there drifting right now on the proffessional curcuit, so if they can do that you can drift your car fine. it's just a matter of money and effort

that Element was backed by Honda America, and talking with the guys from Tein, most everything was one-off'd. Custom fab work. Mucho money...

ArchangelX 10-17-2007 06:09 PM

Yepz. It's all about money, when it comes down to it. You can do anything with money and time. :D

FDs with V8s, Oh my! The world has gone to hell! :freakout:

Scubaru 10-17-2007 06:11 PM

what kind of suspension does it have, a-arms in front live axle/springs rear or leafsprings rear?

Udrivecrap 10-18-2007 10:45 AM

leaf springs... for the 2nd gen. i hardly worked on the rear on my 3rd gens, IIRC those have coil springs like my 4th gen. :hand:

along with a quicker ratio steering box, i would imagine you would also buy the thicker bars for the front and rear to improve handling (see hot rod magazine)... the braces and subframe stuff... and new springs (front and rear) with a higher rate and some stiffer adjustable racing shocks.

also, lowering the vehicle to bring the center or gravity down with after market spindles would also be my best guess to make a drifting machine out of the 2nd gen. you would also want MORE power because its a heavy car.... or gut it out to lighten it up... that would help.

does that sound about right, drifters? :D

also... post some info about your engine.. there's alot of inexpensive combos out there to get you in the 300-400 hp level without breaking the bank and using nitrous. the suspension stuff is expensive, though.

one more thing, it seems to be common knowledge that the front frame rail where the steering box is mounted can crack under twisting... for the 2nd gens. classic industries has helped me before with some tech info.

corytomo 10-19-2007 07:17 AM

I've seen all kinds of leaf spring/solid rear axle cars go drifting... so can!


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