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Unread 07-21-2008, 02:09 AM   #1
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I'm thinking of going to school for Administration of Justice and become a cop. Job looks like something I'd like but im wondering.. all of Hawaii, you can become a cop without going to school.. so what does Adm. of Justice degree do for you? I mean, does it make you skip the Academy process or something?.. J/W.. thanks.. still deciding on my major
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Unread 07-21-2008, 02:18 AM   #2
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College does nothing to help you get into the HPD, nor does it make it easier to get through the process.

I have a Secret clearance and I still had to do their dumbass back-round check. My secret clearance is good enough for Federal Law Enforcement but not good enough for City Metro Police.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 02:21 AM   #3
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what the hell is secret clearence?

so why go to school for the degree if it doesn't budge anything?

Be honest though.. how easy/hard is it? I'm just afraid of failing .. lmao.. I'm pretty fit/strong.. so i'm not worried about that part..but im curious about tests and stuff
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Unread 07-21-2008, 02:31 AM   #4
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if you have half a brain, you can pass the written test. its all a bunch of questions that pretty much determine if you can pay attention to details and to determine if you're a complete idiot or not. there are also some questions in there that will pretty much weed out the psychos
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Unread 07-21-2008, 02:32 AM   #5
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I heard the hard part to pass is the psych examination. With the lie detector and personality evaluation. That's the part where people fail and can't get into the academy.
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stila stealing my "hit and quit it" quote

and yeah i heard that too.. what im worried about is when they ask me if i smoked weed before if i was a kid.. i dont wanna lie and get caught.. and i dont know if theyll give me the boot if i tell the truth
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Unread 07-21-2008, 02:53 AM   #7
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what the hell is secret clearence?

so why go to school for the degree if it doesn't budge anything?

Be honest though.. how easy/hard is it? I'm just afraid of failing .. lmao.. I'm pretty fit/strong.. so i'm not worried about that part..but im curious about tests and stuff
Secret Clearance for the U.S Army, also can be applied to various federal and Gov Jobs.

And this is Hawaii, where Degree < Diploma and GED.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 03:50 AM   #8
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Just go and apply and find out....you will never know till you see for yourself.

HPD is hurting for people. Anytime an organization needs people bad....the requirements usually get "dropped" a nudge.

Just watch the news and go when HPD is really short on people....thats the best time to get in.
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From what I've learned, their psych tests are your biggest hurdles. And whatever you do, don't lie. You smoked weed. Tell them you smoked weed. Hopefully it was the night before....
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Unread 07-21-2008, 07:12 AM   #10
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BTW...where can I get some good weed? I wanna get stooooaaaaned. J/K.
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getting the degree will at least give you some general knowledge of our so called justice system and how it's supposed to work.

you don't need it to apply to HPD. i'm pretty sure not every copper has an admin of justice degree. If they did, some of them already forgot what they learned. It would probably help you if you wanted to transfer or lateral move to say a detective.

I really don't know. just saying what i'm thinking.
perhaps HI-50 would care to enlighten us, since he's already a popo
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Unread 07-21-2008, 08:58 AM   #12
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BTW...where can I get some good weed? I wanna get stooooaaaaned. J/K.
Go to 801 S. Beretania St. Ask for Boisse, Paul, or Karl-they'll hook you up.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 09:32 AM   #13
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You don't need any criminal degree from college, or any college degree for that fact to apply for HPD. The biggest thing in the whole recruitment process is being truthful. If you lie and they find out you're done
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Unread 07-21-2008, 10:13 AM   #14
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Yeah, just tell the truth, been arrested?, smoked pot? speeding? tickets? did stupid stuff as a kid? (hopefully all this occurred years ago...) just put it all down, if you don't and IF they find out, your out...

As for a degree if your planning on moving up the ranks, a degree allows you to apply for the promotions earlier and it adds points to the tests. As far as getting in or bypassing the academy, nope...
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Unread 07-21-2008, 10:16 AM   #15
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I heard the hard part to pass is the psych examination. With the lie detector and personality evaluation. That's the part where people fail and can't get into the academy.
*ahem* *cough* *cough* all my friends seem to have made it thru.

And Braddah Bamz a cop? Hello no. Y don't you be a fireman.
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I wanted to be a police dispatcher. Then I thought to myself, what would I do if I'm on the line with a women getting beat to her death. Will I be able to stay calm and relay that information to the cops? Will it effect my health? Will I be able to keep my work and personal life seperate???

In the end, I didn't. I don't think I'm mentally ready for a job like that.
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If you plan on moving up the ranks in HPD the degree will help though. And it is probably easier to whack it before you join the force vs. trying to go to school while holding a full time job.
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*ahem* *cough* *cough* all my friends seem to have made it thru.

And Braddah Bamz a cop? Hello no. Y don't you be a fireman.
fireman? Too much swimming and running schit u gotta do for the test.. me, police, jus cruise, give tickets, eat donuts, schoot guns, cherry, sounds like sumtn i like for do.

nah on the real though.. I just see choke things i no like w/ cops.. alot of em no give a schit.. me, i like make difference..and i hear people complaining the pay isnt good.. fuk da.t. the pay is awesome.. i aint tryna be a millionaire.. just something that puts food on the table..

that and i watch 2 much law & order.. good schit
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fireman? Too much swimming and running schit u gotta do for the test.. me, police, jus cruise, give tickets, eat donuts, schoot guns, cherry, sounds like sumtn i like for do.

nah on the real though.. I just see choke things i no like w/ cops.. alot of em no give a schit.. me, i like make difference..and i hear people complaining the pay isnt good.. fuk da.t. the pay is awesome.. i aint tryna be a millionaire.. just something that puts food on the table..

that and i watch 2 much law & order.. good schit
Good for you that you want to be a cop for the right reasons.

But I know for a fact, when temptation is right in your face and $$$ is right, a good cop can turn corrupt just to make that extra buck.

I like Law & Order too. And CSI.
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Didn't Dennis (I'm Faster) just go through the HPD testing? PM and ask him.
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Good for you that you want to be a cop for the right reasons.

But I know for a fact, when temptation is right in your face and $$$ is right, a good cop can turn corrupt just to make that extra buck.

I like Law & Order too. And CSI.
nah.. that ain't me

im a buddhist and im always about doing the right thing.. me, i already made too much trouble in the past.. now its time to make amends.. $$ isnt everything.. as long as I have enough for a roof over my head and food on the table and to take care people I love and have a little extra.. that's all gee with me..

besides, i'm doubling majors.. UH doesnt offer them so im doubling associates.

So im going school first for adm. of justice so I can have a start on a career and try to go back school for music engineering (MELE) program @ HCC.. do it as a hobby =D or maybe it could be my career afterwards.. cuz that's actually my dream.. but bleh.. dont know how Hawaii's music industry will be doing..im just afraid of going to school and going out and not doing jackschit with my major
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nah.. that ain't me

im a buddhist and im always about doing the right thing.. me, i already made too much trouble in the past.. now its time to make amends.. $$ isnt everything.. as long as I have enough for a roof over my head and food on the table and to take care people I love and have a little extra.. that's all gee with me..

besides, i'm doubling majors.. UH doesnt offer them so im doubling associates.

So im going school first for adm. of justice so I can have a start on a career and try to go back school for music engineering (MELE) program @ HCC.. do it as a hobby =D or maybe it could be my career afterwards.. cuz that's actually my dream.. but bleh.. dont know how Hawaii's music industry will be doing..im just afraid of going to school and going out and not doing jackschit with my major
It's ok to switch majors when school starts, even if it's multiple times. You will never know what is your niche until you try. Nothing wrong with that...

My advice, never go into something because the money may seem good in that career path. You have to do it because you love doing it. But I'm sure you know that already.

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YUP

I really wanna be a music engineer but I dont know if Hawaii has any good industry for it.. I know so many talents but no power to do anything.. I dont have a way to get into studios anymore to work my magic and yeah.. im too poor now to afford a home studio like before =(
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if i was a police ophicer i would definately be on the beach patrol. yeah...
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