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Unread 12-24-2008, 07:23 PM   #51
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yeah, but sometimes the water softens and loosens up the tape used to secure them to the fish's head.

staples ftmfw!
quick drying gorilla glue would be best. cant be killing fishies all the time for the sake of science.....maybe one or 2 lol
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Unread 02-24-2009, 07:45 AM   #52
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got tons of snails, lots and lots of little snails in the tank with rainbow shark... i think they snuck home in the plants my wife and son brought home, and they didn't treat the plants first for snails before putting them in the tank.

now the tank is crawling (literally) with them, so i think i'm just gonna remove the fish, treat the whole tank, and replace the fish (after a water change).
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Ech. Snails.

I never liked em. They always somehow find a way to "multiply", those tiny little bastards.

Our guppy tanks are kind of green. Mostly the algae that grows so well since the tanks are exposed to about 3 hours of sunlight every morning. We're going to dismantle and clean up the tanks in preparation for shipping back; and now we have almost 600 guppies to give away (some really nice looking fantails too).

Our neighbor started a pond in his yard (shrimp, several golden sunfish {tilapia}, and a brood of mosquitoes! We're going to offer him a bunch to help control the larvae (he's planning to build two more ponds).

I have a feeling I'll be getting back into aquariums, since I won't be on-the-job literally 24-7. No visitors = more leisure time to do fishies.


Good luck with the snails Bruce. I'd do exactly what you intend to do (drain, clean out everything, check the plants before they go back in). Not guarans, but at least it'll give you the upper hand, next round (if they do sneak back in).
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Unread 02-24-2009, 08:32 AM   #54
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I used to have Mickey Mouse guppies

But they were in a really small tank ~2 gal and water conditions killed them off.


I'm going to set up a 55 gal saltwater tank in a month or so. Still in the planning stages:
1. Pick up tank from walmart
2. Build 2x4 stand
3. Pick up sand, rocks, water, etc
4. Build wet/dry sump from walmart
5. Catch fish
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Unread 02-24-2009, 08:34 AM   #55
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^^ yep, it's gonna be a pain to clean the tank of all the snails and their eggs, etc... but at least now my wife and son know to treat the plants before putting them back in.

there are so many snails, etc... that i'm thinking while i have to empty the tank, imma put in the undergravel filter as well, in addition to the top-mounted filter (can't hurt).

heck, the rainbow shark is so antisocial anyway, we never see him. if i was more in a hurry, i'd just drain the tank and use gasoline and a match to clean/sterilize it.
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I'll take some snails off your hands B! I'll need some for our own tank and for Kayli's science class.

My "new" lionhead goldfish and fighting fish are so happy... I put a new filter in the tank. I now need to get some plants and mebbe something the lionhead can hide under but it's nearly impossible since he's a fatty.
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I just bought my girls Goldfishes, 6 of em to be exact. I swear to god, they must be the dirtiest fish alive. 2 weeks and the water looks gross.
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Unread 02-24-2009, 05:08 PM   #58
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^^ ayup. goldfish are notorious for being "dirty" fish - they can foul up a tank in no time flat. gotta have good filtration (i usually use one undergravel filter plus one tank-mount up top) and lots of plants.

gotta watch your flow rates, though. one of my friends had a small hexagonal tank (tall, not wide) and cranked up his undergravel filter (pump was rated for like 20 gallons, for a five gallon tank). pretty much plastered his fish to the tank floor with the return water.
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fish foul up water or overfeeding/underfiltration/not enough water changes?
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Unread 02-24-2009, 07:16 PM   #60
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I just bought my girls Goldfishes, 6 of em to be exact. I swear to god, they must be the dirtiest fish alive. 2 weeks and the water looks gross.
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^^ ayup. goldfish are notorious for being "dirty" fish - they can foul up a tank in no time flat. gotta have good filtration (i usually use one undergravel filter plus one tank-mount up top) and lots of plants.
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Fish foul up water or overfeeding/underfiltration/not enough water changes?
Yep, yep, and yes yes yes.

ninja, how big is your tank? Six goldfish seem to be quite a bit. Well, depending on how big they are, etc.

Goldfish family and it's relatives (koi, comets, shubunkins, etc.) all seem to have a propensity to poop something terrible. I remember I was between tank set-ups (just got rid of my large tinfoil barb school and knife fish) in my 55 gal, and I put in some nice-looking feeder comets for fun while I waited for my datnoids to arrive. They grew very quickly, and they made more "dirt" than my school of 7 large tinfoils. I ended giving them to my friend who got my datnoids, to put in his pond. I think his big shovelnose catfish ate them.

A good undergravel filter should minimize water swaps to a minimum. Powerheads are way better for circulation than the bubblers and lift tubes that are "stock" with UG filters. I have been out of the loop on fish for awhile so the technology might have changed lots. I know they say that some of the hanging power filters today have just as much cleaning ability as the wet-dry filters of my days (which were huge set ups back then). Our three 10 gallon guppy breed tanks each have a small outside filter which works pretty darn good. The smaller 'nursery' tanks don't have anything and my wife tends to those daily.

All this talk about fish makes me itchy again. I'm going to fill my 2 1/2 gallon hex tonight and make a little tank to enjoy in my office before I move. I was too busy, but now I'll make some time.
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Unread 02-25-2009, 08:30 AM   #61
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A good undergravel filter should minimize water swaps to a minimum. Powerheads are way better for circulation than the bubblers and lift tubes that are "stock" with UG filters. I have been out of the loop on fish for awhile so the technology might have changed lots. I know they say that some of the hanging power filters today have just as much cleaning ability as the wet-dry filters of my days (which were huge set ups back then).
i think most UG filters come w/ powerheads - at least all the setups i've seen lately all have powerheads.

the prices have come down a lot since i was into tanks about 10 years ago or so. i think i'm going to pick up a UG setup when i go to the pet store to get the snail medicine for the tank since i'm going to have to empty it anyway.

kinda overkill, but i tend to spoil my fish (used to have a couple of feeder comets in a spare tank, but those spoiled buggers got to eat live brine shrimp and tubifex worms). i figured it was good exercise for them to chase the shrimp around.
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just found out - clown loaches eat snails (well, the smaller ones).

wife and son went to pet shop, came back with a bunch more plants and a clown loach (pet shop salesperson recommended loaches over snail poison).

they cleaned out the bigger snails by hand (sorry - they threw them out before i could ask them to save some for you, dar) and left the small ones for the loach.

unfortunately, the loach spends more time playing with previously-antisocial rainbow shark and tearing up the plants than doing his job (@#$@#$!!!!! fish). otoh, we'll pro'lly have more snails, unless the stupid loach decides he wants to play with them as well.

now loach and rainbow shark spend their days chasing each other around the tank, playing tag, and uprooting and eating(!) the new plants. at least rainbow shark isn't antisocial anymore - i didn't even know he could swim because we hardly ever see him.
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hahahahahahahaaa!!!!

clown loach knocked himself out.... wife was watching the fish play, and started busting out laughing and called me over.

clown loach loves to zoom around the tank and go side to side. unfortunately, i guess he didn't realize he was in a smaller tank, and ran full-tilt into the side of the tank (made a neat "thud" sound, according to wife).

when i came over, he was lying on the bottom stunned with little stars and planets going around his head.

he doesn't go tearing around the tank side to side much anymore.
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well, my wife is officially the "jack the ripper" of fish tanks.

she has singlehandedly managed to kill EVERYTHING she and my son bought, INCLUDING THE PLANTS (?!?!?).

all we had left were two guppies.

they came home yesterday with a bunch more fish and a huge pleco algae eater.

they get along fine, but the pleco just hangs out around the tank heater they bought and sleeps. i guess he likes the warmth (reminds him of home in the pet shop) but he's not cleaning the tank much.

there's like a little clean circle around the tank heater where he hangs out, and the rest of the tank is growing algae.

i hope he wasn't expensive.
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Plecos don't eat all types of algae so maybe he's just eating the brown and not the green.

I have a pleco in my small office tank and since I've been ignoring it, the tank is all green. But at least it isn't brown!
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Plecos don't eat all types of algae so maybe he's just eating the brown and not the green.

i hope he's doing something - i've never actually seen him do anything yet. he just sits on the bottom near the heater, or sticks on the glass just above the heater and watches the other fish swim around.

as far as lazy goes, it doesn't get much better than this guy.
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I think some plecos only feed at night as well. So maybe you just don't see him eating.
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I think some plecos only feed at night as well. So maybe you just don't see him eating.
ah, that's exactly what my wife said this afternoon. this species of pleco is supposed to be nocturnal, so they get active and feed at night. she saw him foraging around the bottom last night (but the glass is getting green).

i told her go talk to your boy and tell him to start cleaning the glass, too.

wife = "....... "
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Maybe it's a "State" pleco.
i wanna be part of his union.

lie around on the heater (he thinks it's his personal bun warmer) and sleep all day, eat all night, how much better does it get than that?
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You still got a snail problem? I used to solve that by placing a small glass cup with a bit of cucumber or lettuce inside overnight then pull that out and dump it out. The snails just love that stuff, repeat as necessary.

It wont kill all the snails, but its a safer and more non-toxic way to control the snail problem. I was always wary of using chemicals to treat the tank.

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gotta buy another hood b/c the water is evaporating too fast from the second tank (just have a mesh lid for now).

also need to buy another heater for the second tank for the temp fluctuations

and another pleco for the first tank.

this is adding up.

hope the tanks have stabilized so they stop killing the fish.
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I think some plecos only feed at night as well. So maybe you just don't see him eating.
hung out and watched tv with the fish after putting my son to sleep.

mr. pleco probably moved about 3" the whole night. he came out, rummaged around in the gravel, and as soon as the little green light on the tank heater came on, he moved back and stuck himself on the heater and didn't move for the rest of the night.

@$@#@#!!!! the tank is NOT going to get clean at this rate.

wife figures he'll have to actually eat sometime when he gets hungry enough.

i'm thinking about removing the tank heater (he can spend all day just lying around near it).

son named him "lazy bones jones".

i'm thinking about calling him "state worker fish".
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boy, fish learn really fast who feeds them.

anytime i walk near the tanks, all the fish (except the @#$@# pleco) immediately come over to the side and start looking at me, then go up to the surface and just look at me.

we only had them for about two days, and already they've learned who to beg from.
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