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Unread 09-30-2009, 04:42 PM   #251
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Do you have pins/clothes pin w/ weights that you can hold the lettuce with?



Anyways,
Are there any ornamental fish that are easy to raise and breed? I'd like to do a mini hydro/aquaponic type of set up but I don't to use the typical tilapia for the fish. Everyone does that, I'd like to grow some type of plant, maybe even ornamental plants, but I'd like to use a different type of fish. Any suggestions?
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Do you have pins/clothes pin w/ weights that you can hold the lettuce with?
yeah, i think i'm going to use a heavier weight, or maybe tuck a corner of the lettuce under one of the tank decorations.

my wife got impatient and just picked up the fake log decoration with all the cone snails on it and tossed it in a bucket. she picked off all the snails and threw them into a bucket of salt water, rinsed the log, and put it back.

next night, the log was covered with snails again, so she did it again.

now the big snails you can see are gone, but there are lots of little snails growing up in the tank. we'll do the lettuce thing tonight, probably.

i think loach #2 must be eating some of the smaller snails, because he's getting kinda chubby.
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Maybe you need to put the lettuce in when you turn out the lights, so the fish are less likely to see it.
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got started rescapng my 1g project tank







now i just have to wait for the driftwood to sink so i can shape it, then i can add the rest of my java ferns, and hopefully some anubias nanas
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nice!!! ^^^

poor new bristlenose appears to have some sort of fin rot (last BN in same tank also had fin rot).

wife's been treating with mela oil, but she hasn't seen any change in status.

i hope we don't lose this guy, too... he finally warmed up to the other fish (or they warmed up to him) and the three of them cruise around the tank now.

we're getting them all from the same pet store, i wonder if we're buying them with some sort of fin rot.
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Maybe you need to put the lettuce in when you turn out the lights, so the fish are less likely to see it.
thanks!

we just tried that (putting it in at night) but the fish can still see it and get in the way (gotta get it in there and weight it down, and they can see us moving around and putting it in).

otoh, though, once we get it in there, they tend to leave it alone if we feed them right before we put the lettuce in, so we'll see if the cone snails go for it.
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well, our bristlenose has been corrupted. he discovered fish flakes, and now he waits for us to feed the fish instead of eating the algae off the tank walls.

whenever he sees me near the tank, he swims over to the side and waits, or he sticks to the glass on the front. he'll follow me around the tank as i move around the room and just look at me and beg.

when we feed the fish, he swims around and tries to swim so his mouth (on his underside, like a ray) faces up so he can get the floating food. otherwise, he waits on the bottom for the food to float by him in the current and jumps on it.

he totally gave up cleaning the tank, and just lies around with loach #1 on the bottom (who i think may have given up eating snails - i think he got tired of them).

grr.
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here my newest monster tank



hahahahah.

its around 2"x2"x2".
ill probably be getting a couple of shrimp for it in the next couple of days.
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cool!

wife told me that our bristlenose pleco can recognize voices - when she's working by the tank, she said if he hears my voice when i walk in the door, he swims to the front and starts looking for me.

i think he figured out i can be easily juiced for more food - if my wife doesn't tell me she already fed them, i sometimes feed them again if they're begging.

i think the fish have me pegged for a sucker.
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I had no idea fish could become accustomed to certain things. Or beg..hah.
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The 5gal Menehune water container conversion seems to be my best bet if I don't find a 5~10 gal soon. It seems that the 10gal tanks are all out, except for PetCo? (in Pearl City across Wallyworld) but there's were more than the $13 that I've seen elsewhere. I just need to figure out how to do the conversion.

I wish I kept my 5gal that I got rid of a few years back.
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I had no idea fish could become accustomed to certain things. Or beg..hah.
i think they're begging - when they see someone, they all crowd over to the side of the tank and stare at them, or go up to the surface and wait.

and i think bristlenose can tell the difference between people - when he sees me, he swims right over. when my wife comes up to the tank and tries to call him, he just ignores her, or puts out his defensive gill hooks and extends his fins (defensive or aggressive position) and stares at her.

i have no idea what she did to him, other than she operates the gravel vacuum when we clean the tank (i'm outside turning the hose and off, so he can't see me).
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^In a way then, you've conditioned the bristlenose to associate her presence with the "awful thingy that disrupts our normally serene tank atmosphere" hehhehehe
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i think so - plus she catches him in a net when we're cleaning the tank to move him into a holding tank, and his gill hooks and fins get caught in the net (he doesn't like that either).
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all the readings i've done says bristlenose plecos are primarly nocturnal, peaceful, algae-eating fish that do good in community tanks.

this guy is 0 for 4 now.

he's up all day and night, as long as he knows people are awake.

he's getting kinda aggressive towards other fish that get too close to him (had to move him from the other tank because he and the loach #2 would always fight). if he's waiting for me by the glass and another fish comes up to look at me, he'll dart at them and chase them away.

he doesn't eat algae anymore (waits for fish flakes).

he isn't much of a team player - just hangs out with loach #1 and plots against the other fish.

when he was smaller, he was much more peaceful and introverted. now that he's the second biggest fish in the tank, it's going to his head.

i just might have to put a bigger fish in there that can kick his ass for a couple of days to mellow him out.
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The 5gal Menehune water container conversion seems to be my best bet if I don't find a 5~10 gal soon. It seems that the 10gal tanks are all out, except for PetCo? (in Pearl City across Wallyworld) but there's were more than the $13 that I've seen elsewhere. I just need to figure out how to do the conversion.

I wish I kept my 5gal that I got rid of a few years bac.
walmart usually has lots of 10g tanks. Empty and full kits
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initial set up.

substrate: ADA Aquasoil (Amazonia II)
decor: Malaysian Driftwood
fauna: 2 types of anubias, (nana, and the skinny leaf one), java fern, amazon swords
equipment: Nutrafin Co2 System w/ bubble ladder



this was a few hours after i first set it up. the soil was still settling so its pretty cloudy.

today i up graded the light to 40w (from the original 15w)and added a few more plants.
got some ground cover started, and i tied all the java ferns to the DW. also added some java moss to the front of the DW.



hopefully it will grow in nicely.
i guess we will see.
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hahahaha....

wife and bristlenose were antagonizing each other yesterday after work...

he puffed out his gill hooks at her, so she stood by his tank making faces back at him.

they took turns making faces at each other until he finally turned his back on her.

i'm not sure who won, but it was funny as heck!
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aspects - can't wait to see the plant tank. I always wanted to build one with some nice schooling fish, a few shrimp, and maybe an angel or something.


If anyone goes to a pet store, let me know if they have Axolotls and if so, what's the price range. I know Petland Kahala has some for $35 and Ko'olau has some for $29. But Kahala's only had albino and the others didn't look too solid, and Ko'olau only had the brownish ones. I was looking for different colors. Thanks
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friend has a mini saltwater tank set up, think we might go and catch some stuff for it this weekend.
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well, dunno how it happened, but our third(!?!?!?) bristlenose has died. found him on the bottom of the tank the other day. he looked a little listless and not as lively, so i was about to isolate him and put him in the medical tank after i got home from work.

he didn't make it that long.

now his loach friend keeps swimming around the bottom of the tank looking for him under the filter, tank heater, in the boat, etc... everywhere they used to hang out.

i thought these things are supposed to be pretty hardy fish, dunno how my wife keeps managing to kill them (her tanks).

no more plecos for her - i got her a sponge scrubber on a stick for the tanks.
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well, dunno how it happened, but our third(!?!?!?) bristlenose has died. found him on the bottom of the tank the other day. he looked a little listless and not as lively, so i was about to isolate him and put him in the medical tank after i got home from work.

he didn't make it that long.

now his loach friend keeps swimming around the bottom of the tank looking for him under the filter, tank heater, in the boat, etc... everywhere they used to hang out.

i thought these things are supposed to be pretty hardy fish, dunno how my wife keeps managing to kill them (her tanks).

no more plecos for her - i got her a sponge scrubber on a stick for the tanks.
get a blue eyed pleco hehehehehe. once you see the price you'll understand
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well, dunno how it happened, but our third(!?!?!?) bristlenose has died. found him on the bottom of the tank the other day. he looked a little listless and not as lively, so i was about to isolate him and put him in the medical tank after i got home from work.

he didn't make it that long.

now his loach friend keeps swimming around the bottom of the tank looking for him under the filter, tank heater, in the boat, etc... everywhere they used to hang out.

i thought these things are supposed to be pretty hardy fish, dunno how my wife keeps managing to kill them (her tanks).

no more plecos for her - i got her a sponge scrubber on a stick for the tanks.

do you have a water testing kit (liquid, not paper strips)?
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quick snap of some of the exodons.

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